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PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 12:21 pm 
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This story is going to cause some political embarrassment:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... r-aid.html

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Pranab Mukherjee and other Indian ministers tried to terminate Britain’s aid to their booming country last year - but relented after the British begged them to keep taking the money, The Sunday Telegraph can reveal.
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“We do not require the aid,” he said, according to the official transcript of the session.
“It is a peanut in our total development exercises [expenditure].” He said the Indian government wanted to “voluntarily” give it up.
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According to a leaked memo, the foreign minister, Nirumpama Rao, proposed “not to avail [of] any further DFID [British] assistance with effect from 1st April 2011,” because of the “negative publicity of Indian poverty promoted by DFID”.
But officials at DFID, Britain’s Department for International Development, told the Indians that cancelling the programme would cause “grave political embarrassment” to Britain, according to sources in Delhi.


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 12:57 pm 
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/india/9061844/India-tells-Britain-We-dont-want-your-aid.html

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Pranab Mukherjee and other Indian ministers tried to terminate Britain’s aid to their booming country last year - but relented after the British begged them to keep taking the money, The Sunday Telegraph can reveal.
The disclosure will fuel the rising controversy over Britain’s aid to India.
The country is the world’s top recipient of British bilateral aid, even though its economy has been growing at up to 10 per cent a year and is projected to become bigger than Britain’s within a decade.


CMD needs to appear in the Commons PDQ to explain this!! Has the Government not pinged that we are in a crisis and need that money ourselves? And if it's just meant as a palm greaser the Dassault contract has shown that it's either not enough or they don't care. Either way the imbecile politicians of this country need to stop big timing at our expense.

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Britain currently pays India around £280 million a year, six times the amount given by the second-largest bilateral donor, the United States. Almost three-quarters of all foreign bilateral aid going to India comes from Britain. France, chosen as favourite to land the warplane deal, gives around £19 million a year.


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In India, meanwhile, government audit reports found £70 million had disappeared from one DFID-funded project alone.

Hundreds of thousands of pounds was spent on delivering more than 7,000 televisions to schools — most of which did not have electricity. Few of the televisions ever arrived. A further £44,000 of British aid was allegedly siphoned off by one project official to finance a movie directed by her son.


Nice to see UK taxpayers funds are still being siphoned off for corrupt purposes.. :shock:

Edit to Add: Mods Please merge with the other thread on this topic....


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 1:34 pm 
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You beat me to this story Westonman... Have requested the Mods merge mine with yours on the other thread.

Cameron needs to come to the Commons to explain this and PDQ. They have been telling us giving this aid was the right thing to do, and that it was gratefully received.. Clearly the PC lobby is the tail wagging the dog..

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Obviously the foreign aid department trying to show they are still needed at the current manpower - which it probably isn't.

The bigger your department the more important you are

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 4:19 pm 
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Westonman wrote:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... r-aid.html

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According to a leaked memo, the foreign minister, Nirumpama Rao, proposed “not to avail [of] any further DFID [British] assistance with effect from 1st April 2011,” because of the “negative publicity of Indian poverty promoted by DFID”.
But officials at DFID, Britain’s Department for International Development, told the Indians that cancelling the programme would cause “grave political embarrassment” to Britain, according to sources in Delhi.
The embarrassment to the British Government caused by the Indians refusing the aid should be NOTHING compared to the embarrassment that Cameron's government should now experience by this latest revelation.

This story truly highlights the gross incompetence of this Government. Cameron & Co insist on handing over hard-pressed taxpayers' money to those who don't need or want it; whilst making life nigh on impossible for many of our own people who have paid, and continue to pay, excessive amounts in tax. To make matters far worse, it is multi-millionaires, such as Andrew Mitchell, that insist on giving money extracted from our own poor to send abroad; the likes of whom probaly don't pay their taxes in the form of non-tax-efficient P.A.Y.E, where there is no escape from the demands of HMRC.


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 4:47 pm 
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http://conservativehome.blogs.com/theto ... tates.html

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The FT reports this morning that Andrew Mitchell, Secretary of State for International Development, is to freeze Britain's annual £280 million aid budget for India*. All of the budget will be focused on India's poorest regions and Mr Mitchell will divert half of UK spending into pro-poor private investment, rather than traditional development assistance.
Mr Mitchell had been under pressure to scrap all aid for India for reasons listed by the FT:

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Key to this issue is whether British aid should be about helping people or countries. If your focus is simply on countries then helping India looks harder to justify. If, however, your concern is people then India does contain huge numbers of people in desperate need of help. Andrew Mitchell notes that "India has more poor people in it than the whole of sub-Saharan Africa."
Mr Mitchell does not expect aid to India to last for more than a few more years but has decided that the Indians within the 456 million living on less than $1.25 a day - and that Britain can reach - shouldn't be penalised because of their government and its questionable spending priorities.

Clearly, Andrew Mitchel is smarting a little at the story in today's Telegraph. However, he insists on sending money extracted from hard-pressed UK taxpayers' 'directly' to India's poor and by-passing the Indian Government. That sounds like the UK Government is now directly interfering in the affairs of a sovereign foreign state.

I wonder how Cameron's Government would react to the Chinese Government, or any other government, 'giving aid directly' to any section of the UK population? For a start, HMRC would want to take a huge slice of the unearned income in tax. Also, any aid income would be accounted by Government to reduce any UK State benefits, with the net outcome being of little benefit to the recipients of foreign aid. The overall effect would be that any 'direct aid' would effectively become aid paid to the UK State.

The fundamental point that Andrew Mitchell and the whole of the UK Government fail to grasp is. The Indian people are the primary responsibility of the Indian Government – not the UK Government. If the Indian Government has large numbers of genuinely 'poor' people under its jurisdiction, then the Indian Government should organise its expenditure to meets the needs of its own people BEFORE engaging in space adventures and building nuclear weapons.
It does appear that UK politicians only have an eye for poverty and deprivation in foreign lands, and give every impression of being blind to the suffering their own actions are causing UK nationals in Britain.


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 9:27 pm 
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Westonman wrote:
http://conservativehome.blogs.com/thetorydiary/2011/02/andrew-mitchell-freezes-uk-aid-to-india-and-plans-to-put-extra-money-in-failing-states.html

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--------- Key to this issue is whether British aid should be about helping people or countries. If your focus is simply on countries then helping India looks harder to justify.
It does appear that UK politicians only have an eye for poverty and deprivation in foreign lands, and give every impression of being blind to the suffering their own actions are causing UK nationals in Britain.


Not just UK nationals in Britain.

I can think of a lot of ex-pat UK Pensioners who would like to see these ` unwanted grants ' redirected to giving us the same COL increases all pensioners EXCEPT Commonwealth residents receive !

Any Politician who directed UK Tax Money be paid to an unwilling India should be billed personally with the costs !!!!


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 2:05 am 
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Oh the irony. They quite rightly don't want or need our 'aid' , and the vast majority of the overtaxed British population don't want to give them that 'aid'. What part of that simple equation do our politicians fail to understand ?


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I am sure there are plenty of other things we can waste this money on, its all part of a democracy that as long as you sit down and shut up, and leave it to the idiots who think they know best, safe in the knowledge we will vote them back for even bigger and better cockups, this is a democracy that works because we do as we are told, and being on 80 grand a year it obvious the pensioners on 6 grand if they are lucky, know absolutely nothing, so just carry on cap in hand, and be grateful, the fruits of a lifetime of paying taxes, and continue to do so with a fifth of what you spend is given back in VAT, supports those in the schemes dreamt up by our leaders, ours not to reason why, ours is to pay and die, onward into the valley of debit rode the six million. :o :( :(

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 11:52 am 
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... er-us.html

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Sources in Delhi suggested British officials begged India to accept the aid. One commented: 'They said British ministers had spent political capital justifying the aid to their electorate. 'They said it would be highly embarrassing if [India] pulled the plug.'
Could that be the the same kind of deceitful and dishonest political capital spent on justifying wind turbines, solar panels, and the whole carbon dioxide mythical threat to life on earth? It will be even more embarrassing to the political elite when they have to admit the whole of the supposed CO2 threat is one huge power grab and tax raising scam.


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