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PostPosted: Sat Feb 20, 2016 1:21 am 
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Dave got nothing , no pull out of the green con agenda
no coal fired power stations
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 20, 2016 7:45 am 
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A Copy & Paste from another place.

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Just a reminder: our *entire* influence in the EU is 8%.

We are not 'at the heart of Europe' or any such nonsense.
(We have to leave the room when trade deals are being made)

We have voting rights of 8%.
http://bit.ly/24eeoWB

We are the 5th largest economy on the planet, a position we **** away, in return for 8% influence in the world's ONLY declining trading bloc. And bizarrely, we pay £Billions every year for the privilege. Money unwillingly extracted from poor old taxpayers.

Clear?

Instead, we could have complete freedom, keep the billions we give to the EU, and have 100% decision making ability over everything. We could trade with whom we want, how we want, develop industries, our fisheries, our financial institutions how we like. We would still trade with the countries remaining in the EU. Punitive tariffs are illegal under WTO rules, and the Lisbon Treaty enshrines the fact that any leaving country is granted a trade deal.

The politicians we elect would actually be able to set policy, the vast majority of UK businesses who have nothing to do with the EU would be freed from petty and costly legislation.

We would control our borders, and be able to decide who is allowed in. Brits would still be able to live in any country that'll have them, and go on holiday to Spain or wherever they want.
Gove has now left, Boris next to jump ?

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 20, 2016 1:05 pm 
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Love this comment, it sums it up nicely:

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LeaveEU co-chairman Richard Tice tweeted: "Cameron promised half a loaf, begged for a crust and brought home crumbs."


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 20, 2016 6:35 pm 
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Great stuff guys


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 21, 2016 8:30 am 
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One thing I've noticed already is the 2 different camp statement strategies.

The Out camp are quoting the benefits of leaving whilst the In camp are quoting threats of what may happen if we do.

Sane arguments vs chucking toys out.

Migration benefits pegged for 4 years then after 7 years it's open house again. Hardly a deal IMO.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 21, 2016 7:00 pm 
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I think a bigger issue than benefits is cheap labour driving down wages.


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 21, 2016 8:28 pm 
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After a lot of time pondering Boris has elected to vote out. That confirms my decision. He may come across as a clown but he is a very astute politician. He will nit have made that decision easily.

Plus he may be in line to take over from Cameron so needs something to take over.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 12:40 pm 
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The real issues aren't benefits, immigration, wages, or any other one of a million possible red herrings to be raised during the referendum debate. The overriding issue is the sovereignty of the British people, and their freedom to rule themselves according to British law, without foreign interference, or directives from unelected EU commissioners.

This article by Dominic Lawson deserves to be read and digested by every voter BEFORE the referendum:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/artic ... years.html


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2016 11:15 pm 
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I agree westonman, only by getting out of the EU will we be 'free' again. Project Fear is upon us to keep us imprisoned within the EU.


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 25, 2016 1:54 am 
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Very good article.


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