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PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2017 10:15 pm 
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The EU has assisted Britain!!!!!!!!! This makes interesting reading:

Cadbury moved factory to Poland 2011 with EU grant.

Ford Transit moved to Turkey 2013 with EU grant.

Jaguar Land Rover has recently agreed to build a new plant in Slovakia with EU grant, owned by Tata, the same company who have trashed our steel works and emptied the workers pension funds.

Peugeot closed its Ryton (was Rootes Group) plant and moved production to Slovakia with EU grant.

British Army's new Ajax fighting vehicles to be built in SPAIN using SWEDISH steel at the request of the EU to support jobs in Spain with EU grant, rather than Wales.

Dyson gone to Malaysia, with an EU loan.

Crown Closures, Bournemouth (Was METAL BOX), gone to Poland with EU grant, once employed 1,200.

M&S manufacturing gone to far east with EU loan.

Hornby models gone. In fact all toys and models now gone from UK along with the patents all with with EU grants.

Gillette gone to eastern Europe with EU grant..

Texas Instruments Greenock gone to Germany with EU grant.

Indesit at Bodelwyddan Wales gone with EU grant.

Sekisui Alveo said production at its Merthyr Tydfil Industrial Park foam plant will relocate production to Roermond in the Netherlands, with EU funding.

Hoover Merthyr factory moved out of UK to Czech Republic and the Far East by Italian company Candy with EU backing.

ICI integration into Holland’s AkzoNobel with EU bank loan and within days of the merger, several factories in the UK, were closed, eliminating 3,500 jobs Boots sold to Italians Stefano Pessina who have based their HQ in Switzerland to avoid tax to the tune of £80 million a year, using an EU loan for the purchase.

JDS Uniphase run by two Dutch men, bought up companies in the UK with £20 million in EU 'regeneration' grants, created a pollution nightmare and just closed it all down leaving 1,200 out of work and an environmental clean-up paid for by the UK tax-payer. They also raided the pension fund and drained it dry.

UK airports are owned by a Spanish company.

Scottish Power is owned by a Spanish company.

Most London buses are run by Spanish and German companies.

The Hinkley Point C nuclear power station to be built by French company EDF, part owned by the French government, using cheap Chinese steel that has catastrophically failed in other nuclear installations. Now EDF say the costs will be double or more and it will be very late even if it does come online.

Swindon was once our producer of rail locomotives and rolling stock. Not any more, it's Bombardier in Derby and due to their losses in the aviation market, that could see the end of the British railways manufacturing altogether even though Bombardier had EU grants to keep Derby going which they diverted to their loss-making aviation side in Canada.

39% of British invention patents have been passed to foreign companies, many of them in the EU The Mini cars that Cameron stood in front of as an example of British engineering, are built by BMW mostly in Holland and Austria. His campaign bus was made in Germany even though we have Plaxton, Optare, Bluebird, Dennis etc., in the UK. The bicycle for the Greens was made in the far east, not by Raleigh UK but then they are probably going to move to the Netherlands too as they have said recently.

Anyone who thinks the EU is good for British industry or any other business simply hasn't paid attention to what has been systematically asset-stripped from the UK. Name me one major technology company still running in the UK, we used to contract out to many, then the work just dried up as they were sold off to companies from France, Germany, Holland, Belgium, etc., and now we don't even teach electronic technology for technicians any more, due to EU regulations.
This hasn't detailed our non-existent fishing industry the EU paid to destroy, nor the farmers being paid NOT to produce food they could sell for more than they get paid to do nothing, don't even go there.

This hasn't mentioned what it costs us to be asset-stripped like this, nor does it mention immigration, nor the risk to our security if control of our armed forces is passed to Brussels or Germany. Nor has it mentioned the control that Europe puts on our planning laws.

Find something that's gone the other way, I've looked and I just can't. If you think the EU is a good idea, then 1. You haven't read the party manifesto of The European Peoples' Party. 2. You haven't had to deal with EU petty bureaucracy tearing your business down. 3. You don't think it matters.


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 04, 2017 1:25 am 
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Thanks for all that R.K. This is the kind of information that should constantly be placed before the British electorate.

The EU is, and has been for decades, waging economic war against the people of the UK. And all with the blessing and positive assistance of the 'British' political class of the LibLabNatsCON, and the globalist corporations and banks. The LibLabNatsCON are all guilty of high treason. The mainstream media are all as guilty because they assist the EU and the traitors by not publishing the true facts. The Crownis also guilty of treason. It is worth carefully reading a copy of the Coronation Oath that the Queen took at her Coronation; She has failed to uphold that oath.

I've given up even looking at the Daily Telegraph, it has become a sick joke. The Daily Mail routinely insults our intelligence with its constant trivial reports and soft porn. The Express tries to look as if it is reporting news, when it actually concentrating on providing Fake News. The sort of Fake News that Parliament has set up a committee to investigate, but will find only the alternative media guilty of. The Mirror and the Guardian are out and out propaganda sheets.

The BBC is a national disgrace; it has set itself up as the Ministry of Truth, where it intends to smear true and accurate news reports coming from the alternative media. The BBC has taken over from Lord Haw Haw.

There are severe rumblings afoot. Have a look at this video of a demonstration outside Parliament:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Er09hNYia90

As far as I can see, none of the mainstream media has reported any of this from the demonstrations by the veterans. The final words from Robin Horsfall need to carefully heard, digested, and taken seriously, there is a sting in the tail. The MSM is full of all the anti-Trump demos, but says nothing about these veterans demonstrating about their colleagues and comrades under arms being treated like criminals. Which only goes to prove there is a conspiracy against us. This situation is so one-sided that I suspect there are links between the IRA and the SNP, with the knowledge and assistance of the UK Government.

Read this: http://www.ukcolumn.org/article/veteran ... government


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 04, 2017 11:46 am 
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This site makes our situation with the EU relatively easy to read and comprehend:

EU Truth.
http://www.eutruth.org.uk/


From the above:
List of traitors.
http://www.eutruth.org.uk/traitors.html

Police state.
http://www.eutruth.org.uk/signseupolice.html


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2017 2:30 pm 
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I voted out and I still stand by that decision.

Slowly but surely the UK was being taken over by Brussels which is largely under the control of Merkel and her puppet Hollande.

What I find interesting at the moment is this Gert Wilders in Holland who is saying far more than Trump ever did and is racing ahead in the polls.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 02, 2017 12:30 pm 
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I see Project Fear is back on full strength with the likes of Blair, Major, Heseltine etc., these people will never accept the democratic will of the people and do/say everything in their power to frustrate Brexit. And as for the BBC, I've stopped listening/watching their biased news.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2017 12:33 pm 
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They seem to be totally focussed on the trading bit, thinking that is what the EU is all about.

The fact that Brussels, under Merkels control, was slowly but surely taking over the countries Gov and laws seems to have escaped them.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 1:55 pm 
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Rich Kid wrote:
I see Project Fear is back on full strength with the likes of Blair, Major, Heseltine etc., these people will never accept the democratic will of the people and do/say everything in their power to frustrate Brexit. And as for the BBC, I've stopped listening/watching their biased news.



I voted remain - but when I put my slip of paper in the box, I have agreed I was participating in a democratic procedure and the rules were the side with the most votes wins. It's not rocket science and I totally accept the Outers won.

It was a shoddy campaign. Both sides lied, but the Brexit campaign was better organised & several hundred decibels louder than the pathetic Remain camp, so most of the more noticeable lies seem to have originated from the Brexit bunch as they promised so much more (Like the £350m a week NHS promise that Farage distanced himself from within a couple of hours of the declaration being announced - but was quiet about before then!)

But it doesn't matter what I or anyone thought of the merits of having a referendum or how it was conducted In the (altered) words of Cruella-De-May 'Democracy means Democracy' and my fellow Remainers should shut up and try and salvage what we can from the mess the Brexit bunch have left us in -starting with trying to keep as many Vauxhall jobs in the UK perhaps


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 10:49 am 
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S.O.T, You and your fellow remainers have nothing to fear about Brexit.

I voted to leave the EU. But even before the vote, I was convinced that a vote to 'leave' would never be honoured and implemented by our current political class. Now, the political manoeuvring and shenanigans over Brexit clearly demonstrate that, despite all the political and media talk to the contrary, there will be NO Brexit.

Britain can never be an independent nation again while our military forces are fully merged within the command and control structure of the EU – which it now is. Plus, Britain's defence engineering and manufacturing are no longer capable of fully supplying the needs of an independent British military; Britain has had the engineering heart torn out of it by the political class over the last 50 years.

The only surprise I have is; that very few seem able to see what is going on. Brexit, a full departure of Britain from the controlling tentacles of the EU, is NEVER going to happen. Britain's political destiny is, to be totally subjugated by the EU. Only a miracle will disengage Britain from the EU now.

There is one very interesting revelation to come from the political class and the MSM. How are they going to eventually face up to revealing to the British public that there is no Brexit, and that we are solidly and totally subjugated by the EU. When that days eventually arrives, probably by the public finally waking up to the truth, there will be an enormous outburst of public rage. When that day dawns the British public will know that they have been lied to and deceived; that no politician or MSM can be trusted ever again. But by then it will all be over; no turning back then. Britons will be slaves.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 9:02 pm 
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I hope you're wrong Westonman. I still believe Brexit will happen, in what form remains to be seen. I hope I'm right.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2017 11:09 am 
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It's difficult to know the full outcome until she triggers article 50.

I found it slightly amusing that PSA have said they will keep Vauxhall going because after Brexit they will have better access to the global market. Talk about 2 faced French.

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