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PostPosted: Fri Feb 26, 2016 9:08 am 
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Michael Howard in the no camp, he reckons Dave's deal is no deal to brag about.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 26, 2016 3:36 pm 
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The EU Referendum is a stitch-up – a sham of a process.

This article

http://con4lib.com/the-cameron-deceptio ... of-the-eu/

helps shine some light into Cameron's EU 'renegotiations'. They haven't taken place; they never will take place:


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The foundations are in place for David Cameron and George Osborne to deceive the British people into believing that this new two-tier structure – that will see Britain become part of the second tier in what will be spun as “associate membership”, the “British model” or some such bilge – is their own idea and victory when in-fact it has been part of a draft EU treaty since October 2013.

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The truth is there is no “re-negotiation”. None. There are no negotiations going on, there is no sitting around a table, it is not happening. As a “senior source in Berlin” said; ‘there haven’t been any negotiations’, thus there was ‘nothing to talk about’ regarding the British question during the recent meeting of the European Council.
There are no negotiations taking place because the changes that Cameron allegedly seeks require treaty change, and his EU colleagues will not begin treaty talks and rush through implementation simply to meet the needs of the British prime minister.
There are no negotiations taking place because the EU is not interested in Cameron’s proposals or ideas, hence why there is no one around the table. The new EU treaty has been set in motion for some time, and the PM’s “demands” are irrelevant.


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They are preparing to make the move that they think will win the referendum and give Osborne an easy coronation as PM.
Colluding in the great deception will be much of the media; a great many sympathetic journalists will dissemble and simulate in choreographed dishonesty, working in tandem with politicians to confuse the issues in the run up to the final act.
Suddenly you will find many former “eurosceptics” turning as they become apparently enamoured and convinced by the government’s great “victory”, including – I contend – several prominent figures you would never have expected to endorse “remain”, and certainly a great number of Conservative MP’s and Ministers who have formerly expressed scepticism.
Their strategy is in place and their operation and resources are absolutely formidable, but their offering is phoney and weak and they rely heavily on ignorance. If you believe in an agile, independent, free-trading Britain leading confidently in a globalised world and want to win the referendum – then you must know the strategy of your enemy, seek to discredit it and spread the word.


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 27, 2016 7:42 pm 
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So latest scare , flights will be more expensive
What with Duty free prices back , and no EU flight tax , i don't think so


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