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PostPosted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 5:23 pm 
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This was sent to me, I know it refers to Canada. But, it's the same for the Uk.


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Who Died Before Collecting their Government Pension?

This is something I never thought about: the men and women who die BEFORE drawing on their Canada Pension Plan.
Who died before they collected Canadian Pension Plan? (CPP)KEEP  PASSING THIS AROUND UNTIL EVERY ONE HAS HAD THE  OPPORTUNITY TO READ IT... THIS IS SURE SOMETHING TO  THINK ABOUT!!!!

THE  ONLY THING WRONG WITH THE GOVERNMENT'S CALCULATION OF  AVAILABLE CPP IS THAT THEY FORGOT TO FIGURE IN THE PEOPLE WHO DIED BEFORE THEY EVER COLLECTED A CPP CHEQUE!!!

WHERE  DID THAT MONEY GO?

Remember,  not only did you and I contribute to CPP but your employer did, too. It totalled 15% of your  income before taxes. If you averaged only $30K over  your working life, that's close to $220,500. Read that  again. Did you see where the Government paid in one single penny?

We  are talking about the money you and your employer put  in a Government bank to insure you and I that we would  have a retirement cheque from the money we put in, not  the Government. Now they are calling the money we put in an entitlement when we reach the age to take it  back. If you calculate the future invested value of $4,500 per year (yours & your employer's  contribution) at a simple 5% interest (less than what the govt. pays on the money that it borrows), after 49 years of working you'd have $892,919.98.

If  you took out only 3% per year, you'd receive $26,787.60 per year and it would last better than 30 years (until you're 95 if you retire at age 65) and that's with no interest paid on that final amount on deposit! If you bought an annuity and it paid 4% per year, you'd have a lifetime income of $2,976.40 per  month.

Another thing with me.... I have two deceased husbands who died in their 50's, (one was 51 and the other one was 59 before one percent of their CPP could be drawn). I worked all my life and am drawing 100% from my own CPP so I am receiving the maximum allowable payment per month. My two deceased husband's CPP money will never have one cent drawn from what they paid into the CPP plan all their lives.


THE FOLKS IN OTTAWA HAVE PULLED OFF A BIGGER PONZI SCHEME THAN BERNIE MADOFF EVER DID.

Entitlement  my foot, I paid cash for my CPP!  Just because they borrowed the money for other government spending, doesn't make my benefits some kind of charity or  handout!!

Remember  Senator's benefits? --- free healthcare, outrageous retirement packages, 67 paid holidays,  three weeks paid vacation, unlimited paid sick days.  Now that's welfare, and they have the nerve to call my CPP retirement payments entitlements?

We're  "broke" and the government can't help our own Seniors, Veterans,  Orphans, or Homeless. Yet in the past few years we  have provided aid to Haiti , Chile, Turkey, Pakistan, etc, etc, etc.  Literally,  BILLIONS of DOLLARS!!! And they can't help our own citizens !

Our  retired seniors living on a 'fixed income' (CPP and OAS) receive no additional federal aid nor do they get any  financial breaks, while our government and religious organizations pour hundreds of billions of $$$ and tons of food to foreign  countries!

They call CPP an entitlement even  though most of us have been paying for it all our working lives, and now, when it's time for us to  collect, the government is running out of money. Why did the government borrow from it in the first place?  It was supposed to be in a locked box, not part of the general fund.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 9:18 pm 
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Said it before, you vote for one set of crooks, or another set of crooks, no way can you win, if every thing goes your way, perhaps you can get close to break even, that's as good as it gets.

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I remember many years ago seeing a Gov statistic that was used to calculate state pensions.

At that time the mean average for people collecting their state pensions was only 2½ years !!!

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 19, 2013 7:58 am 
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Kremmen wrote:
I remember many years ago seeing a Gov statistic that was used to calculate state pensions.
At that time the mean average for people collecting their state pensions was only 2½ years !!!

the nationwide cull of over 68s will go someway to resolving future problems.

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