it was this time of year in 1962 he dropped dead going to Villa park to watch Fulham and Man U play a two all draw in the FA cup, was that particular year FA cup 6th round, boat race, and Grand National all on the same day. only happens every so often.

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I bet Mick McManus and Jackie Pallo were at it too.

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wot a con that was! they were mates all bums on seats fingie

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Its not always the biggest and the bestest, its them that make the least mistakes.

No!!!!!!

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When a crash seems inevitable, try to hit the softest, cheapest object in the vicinity as slowly and gently as possible.

Today Jim your dad would have gone to prison - and you'd have ended up a career criminal.

You (and I Jim) are what is called by the younger generation as 'boomers'.
They take the view that as we have enjoyed the benefit of HPI and the growth on the financial markets (bumping up pension entitlement) through the decades since they 80's that we have done pretty well for ourselves. In fact some of them refer to this as a genius stroke of luck and/or the older generations stealing from the younger.

It is true those savvy enough to have put a little away over they years are now relatively well off in terms of what pension entitlements are going to be 20 or 30 years hence. It is now quite clear the situation is untenable and that the 'ponzi' scheme they use (getting today' NI contributors) to fund the pensions of today is beginning to fail. (probably another reason why they want to open the borders to get some more blood in at the bottom).

Westonman rightly points out today's is an 'instant' society. If someone wants a new phone or computer or any other shiny thing they have to have it today, where they cannot afford it they use credit. Credit has become the norm people want things before they can afford them whereas 'back then' we had to save so never developed the same sense of 'entitlement'.

So we know have an entitlement attitude emblazoned across significant parts of the population and we see examples of this everyday.

In fact it is this attitude and the availability of (was ever increasing) cheap credit which has led to the unsustainable boom and the eventual financial $hitstorm we find ourselves in today. Be in no doubt the amount of credit which was granted was 'off the scale', there will never be any economic recovery until such time as that credit is paid down.

Like it or loath it some of the blame for this must be laid at Thatcher and Reagans feet for the de-regulation of the market policies they employed in the 80's. From the young couple over exaggerating (by some significant degree their earnings) on a self assessment mortgage form (and the lender not checking this) to the young thugs lifting TV's from the windows of Curry's last August. To completely different ends of the scale, one is seen as a white lie (as it does no harm, or does it?) the other criminal but still the common denominator is the sense of entitlement.

That is the key. The lynch pin. Corner stone, or what ever you care to call it of Socialism, everybody is equal, and enjoy the good things in life, some more equal than others, because they run the show, but in all those that have worked hard and conserved the rewards of their efforts are the oddballs, now we have generations who want what they have! and want it now! and it just don't occur to them that somebody has to pay, that there is no magic benefactor who just's supplies their every need, so they protest, make loud noises, saying this is not fair, just because he put his house on the line to create a business that employ people to work and earn, or his father did and passed it on, somehow they believe in the beginning all the wealth, and riches were handed out by some benefactor, to all and sundry, with some getting more than others, and don't understand because they did not pay attention, instead watched them that did get off their arse and put the time in, then when the kitty gets low demand their benefactor borrows! so they can carry on their happy lifestyle free from worry, and sooner or later that system cant survive, so the day of retribution has arrived, and arrived at a time when the blame game is in full swing, and socialism is reborn, redistribution of wealth is the buzzword, and still they have learned nothing, about free handouts to spend on goods that create jobs so others can earn and put a bit in, other than breweries! is there not something written about them that sow the wind, will reap a whirlwind? they just need somebody to hold onto their hats cos they cant be bothered.

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Its not always the biggest and the bestest, its them that make the least mistakes.