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PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2015 12:14 pm 
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I can. I'm with Hitchens on this one.


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2015 4:28 pm 
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I do concede that the press do play a vital role in questioning and keeping those in power on the straight and narrow - such as Watergate. But I really cannot believe all that I read in terms of a hidden and suspicious agenda
SOT, with the deepest respect, that is how 'they' get away with misleading the public. As Hitler is on record of effectively saying; the bigger the lie, the greater the possibilty of it being believed.

As I've said numerous times now; we know the political class and their support agencies have lied to us over-and-over.

Man-made global warming/climate change is a lie of huge proportions designed to centralise all power of government in the hands of faceless corporatist globalists – very probably in the guise of the UN.
From the very beginning we have been given endless lies about the EU project. We were told by our political leaders that it was about a Common Market; and every time the federal nature of the EU was raised the same political class absolutely denied that the EU was a Federal beast heading for ever closer political union. Now the UK is actively being regionalised in line with EU federalism.

Westminster Parliament has become a powerless obedient poodle to the unelected EU directors; our independent sovereignty has been given away in acts of High Treason, all without reference to the British people. Now the British Parliament can't even refuse entry to undesirables who supposedly present a threat of terrorism against us. Very many of our towns and cities have had their culture 'reformed' to something that is anti-British – and even if the political class wanted to do anything about the situation – which they don't, our politicians are powerless to do anything because they have handed all powers and decision making over to the EU and UN.

With the ample evidence of lies that the political class continually mislead us with, I find it incredible that so many of the public still believe without questioning anything the political class tell us. When politicians tell us they are protecting us from terrorism by monitoring and controlling every aspect of our lives, theynow ought to be automatically disbelieved, and heavily questioned as to their real agenda. Government and its agencies are increasingly becoming ever more secretive; while at the same time demanding to know more about each one of us. In a democracy government ought to be afraid of the people – NOT the people afraid of government.

Here's a question: Up until a few short months ago there were mentions of Saul Alinsky's policies on the Conservative and Labour web sites; all those references have now been removed – WHY? The reason why is because Saul Alinsky's book, Rules for Radicals, is the bible of the current crop of communitarian anti-British politicians. The alternative media were openly highlighting the fact that the LibLabCon were following Alinsky's Rules for Radicals, and the LibLabCon became embarrassed about it being too widely known -and now all references to Alinsky has been removed from LabCon web pages.

For Rules For Radicals see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rules_for_Radicals
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Additionally, the methods taken from Rules for Radicals have also been prevalent in modern American politics. Barack Obama’s most recent primary campaign was noted for featuring strong elements of Alinsky’s organizing techniques.
Is this the reason for the Obama/Cameron love-in, and why Cameron refers to Obama as 'Bro'; or should that be 'comrade'?


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2015 8:53 pm 
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That's everything I couldn't muster up the energy to write.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 2:26 pm 
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Cameron's Big Society and its links to Alinsky and his Rules For Radicals.

This article by Melanie Phillips in 2010 explains:
http://standpointmag.co.uk/node/3158/full
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When David Cameron announced in his Big Society speech last spring that he intended to create a "neighbourhood army" of 5,000 full-time, professional community organisers, most people probably imagined that he was talking about mobilising the kind of worthy folk who habitually volunteer for good deeds.
I believe that 'army' of agitators is now in place and active.

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His (Alinsky's) creed was set out in Rules for Radicals, which he dedicated to Lucifer, whom he called the "first radical". For Alinsky, "change" was his mantra. Sound familiar? It was the slogan repeated incessantly by both Cameron and Obama. But what Alinsky meant was a Marxist revolution achieved by slow, incremental, Machiavellian means. 
In fact, undefined “CHANGE” is the mantra of the LibLabGreenCON.

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But the British Tories don't even understand what they have so witlessly endorsed.
I strongly disagree with Melanie Phillips at this point. I believe Cameron and his close allies were fully aware of what they were doing all along. If any Conservative MPs were not aware of what Cameron was up to with his program of undefined “CHANGE” and Big Society then they are indeed unfit to be representatives of any portion of the electorate.

A PDF form of Alinsky's book Rules For Radicals can be read here:
http://servv89pn0aj.sn.sourcedns.com/~g ... dicals.pdf
On page 5 of this PDF we read this: [Quote]Lest we forget at least an over-the-shoulder acknowledgement to the very first radical: from all our legends, mythology, and history (and who is to know where mythology leaves off and history begins — or which is which), the first radical known to man who rebelled against the establishment and did it so effectively that he at least won his own kingdom — Lucifer.

SAUL ALINSKY
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There is more here about the Cameron's Big Society and its links with Alinsky's dedication to Lucifer: http://www.sovereignindependentuk.co.uk ... g-society/

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“This plan is directly based on the successful community organising movement established by Saul Alinsky in the United States and has successfully trained generations of community organisers, including President Obama.”
That statement, which beggars belief even in the political fairground we now inhabit, is not taken from some far-out Trotskyite samizdat, but from the official Conservative Party introduction to David Cameron’s Big Idea – the creation of a “Neighbourhood army” of 5,000 full-time community organisers to implement his grotesque fantasy called “Big Society”. If you ever doubted that, under Cameron, the Conservative Party has become ideologically and culturally deracinated, has lost its political compass and is occupied by an alien clique that has disfigured it beyond recognition, here is the incontestable evidence.
Saul Alinsky is here openly acknowledged as the inspiration behind Cameron’s “Big Idea”. Alinsky was the lifelong cultural revolutionary and political subversive whom Barack Obama formerly claimed as his “spiritual mentor”; since Obama hit mainstream politics, however, his supporters have expended a vast amount of effort on trying to conceal that embarrassing history. The aggressively amoral Alinsky believed there was no right or wrong in politics, only what was necessary to seize power (well, Dave and his gang would buy that).
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What is going on here? Who is running the Cameronian Party – Common Purpose? How is it conceivable that even the most bland, politically correct, centre-right “conservative” party could derive its flagship policy from the thinking of Alinsky, whose seminal work Rules for Radicals was dedicated to Lucifer? If, as one suspects, this is the brainchild of Oliver Letwin, he needs to be escorted expeditiously to the seclusion of a padded boudoir.
Are the Tories totally demented? Sending 5,000 community organisers to harass people into approved activities is reminiscent of the Red Guards invading the countryside during the Chinese Cultural Revolution. Claims that they will not be state employees are contradicted by the references to “grants” that will be made available. The inescapable fact is that any enterprise artificially generated by Government is a state-inspired initiative. Real communities have the WRI, the British Legion, bowling, tennis, cricket clubs – naturally evolved organisations.
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Big Society is either sinister or a reflection of the Cameronian clique’s total divorce from reality. It is utterly un-Conservative and totally un-British. The people of this country, insofar as they can bring themselves to take it seriously, will hate it to death. It is the product of an alien intrusion occupying the husk of the Conservative Party. It is an eloquent testimonial to why David Cameron is unfit to become the Prime Minister of this country.
It should now be clearer as to why all references to Alinsky have been removed from the LabCON web sites. After all, why would any 'Conservative' PM, Leader of a Conservative Party (so-called), have anything to do with the policies of a radical Marxist?

A symbol of the Fabian Society is a wolf in a Sheep's clothing.
The Deceit is in plain sight: Here is the Fabian Society Crest: http://leahgold.hubpages.com/hub/Symbol ... iety-Crest


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 5:03 pm 
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Cameron's biggest success is in portraying himself as a man with no firm convictions. I suspect he has some very deeply held beliefs driving him and his hidden agenda.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 6:48 pm 
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Jon wrote:
Cameron's biggest success is in portraying himself as a man with no firm convictions. I suspect he has some very deeply held beliefs driving him and his hidden agenda.
I agree with you. Cameron/Clegg government's approval that Satanic ceromonies may be practised onboard Royal Navy ships, Cameron's adoption of Luciferian Rules For Radicals, his total and arrogant commitment to the redefinition of marriage; plus the routine deceit and endless lies that are employed to cover up truth, these all speak of something extremely unsavoury at the heart of government in general - and Cameron in particular.


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