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 Post subject: Fracking: Do we want it?
PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 10:40 pm 
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The Daily Telegraph report:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/energy ... cking.html
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Half of Britain to be opened up to fracking


The BBC report:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-28513036
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The government is keen to promote fracking in the UK, and has already announced a number of incentives to help kick-start the industry, including tax breaks, payments of £100,000 per site plus a 1% share of revenue to local communities.

We know that politicians and corporates are a lot less than honest with us, so why should we believe them when they tell us that fracking is safe? Why should drilling through essential water-supplying aquifers and pumping millions of gallons of water laden with toxic fluids through them in cement encased steel pipes be 100% safe? If it can go wrong - it will go wrong – and then what do we do, when the water supplies are no longer fit for human consumption – or even worse?

The existing water supply is already under strain, but now we are told that 300,000 new homes are needed every year: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politic ... -year.html
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Danny Alexander: we need 300,000 new homes each year
That's 300,000 new homes per year, every year; homes that will need a reliable and safe water supply from a system that is already under severe strain, and that is without pumping millions of gallons of valuable fresh water down fracking wells, and through irreplacable aquifers.

The inconveneint truth that Cameron, Osborne, the LibLabCon, and the energy corporations don't want us to know:
Fracking An Inconvenient Truth Watch Learn about Fracking Shale Gas:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uokmsSi7LTY

Gasland Part 1:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... hCibwj396I

Gasland Part 2:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... _uNx2fXlfE


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That's the thing with water supply. Where's it coming from in the future ?

Can't see beyond the end of their nose. If they insist on this policy then they need to start desalination and introduce a national water network. They won't and they won't. They will just blame any drought on the previous Gov

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 9:08 am 
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Half a dozen of one six of the other.

Do we want to be sitting in the dark and cold when Russia turns the taps off? Or he had occupied the Baltic states (where most of our imported gas comes from) with a veiw to halt the further expansion of the EU and the want of NATO to place the missile defence shield right up along the Russian border?
It is the ambition of the EU which has led UKR down the path to the civil war it now wages and responsible for the downing of that airliner.

When people have sat in the dark and cold for a few weeks environmental concerns will be taking a back seat.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 11:17 am 
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I thought Blair and Brown had fracked us already.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 12:03 pm 
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Unfortunately, the problems created by fracking don't end with a poisoned water supply. It will industrialise huge swathes of the countryside, and with it bring huge environmental pollution, including the air we breath. Flare-offs will release toxins into the air; recovered frack fluid will pollute the soil and the ground. And, who will want to buy your home when fracking induced earthquakes have undermined your property; the local air supply is heavily poisoned, the water supply is undrinkable; and the locality has become a vast industrial contaminated wasteland. Water, air, soil, and ground pollution resulting from fracking will inevitably destroy the bulk of the British mainland. In fact, fracking is effectively an act of chemical warfare by the LibLabCon against the people of Britain, a truly outrageous act of treason that makes the handing over of the UK to the EU against the will of the people a relatively trivial crime.

Geezer, it isn't a choice between fracking and sitting in the dark – that is another political lie. It is a choice between sanity and insanity; between integrity and treason; between truth and lies. The reason there is an energy supply problem is because successive governments have engineered it that way. Coal burning power stations are being unnecessarily closed because of the political addiction to the lie of CO2 induced climate change/global warming – a deliberate lie dreamed up by the fascist globalists. THERE IS NO man-made climate change; the whole of the anti CO2 agenda is one of two most outrageous lies ever perpetrated against mankind. Germany, Russia, India, and China are BUILDING coal-burning power stations. The problem isn't CO2 - the problem is lying politicians, backed up by a deceitful media amd Press.

Coal burning, and nuclear power stations, should be built as a matter of national urgency – and British firms and labour should be used to build them. But the LibLabCon don't have the interests of Britain and its people at heart – the LibLabCon are traitors of the highest order.


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I can't decide on fracking. If it's safe I'm all for it, if it's not, I'm not. Hard to know because I don't believe a word environmentalists say.


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The way perfectly good coal fired power stations are being torn down and blown up is criminal.


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Jon wrote:
I can't decide on fracking. If it's safe I'm all for it, if it's not, I'm not. Hard to know because I don't believe a word environmentalists say.
That's an interesting response.

As to the 'safety' of fracking; we only have the word of the energy firms and the politicians claiming that fracking is safe. And I don't believe a word either of those groups say.

The energy corporations have proven themselves to be greedy beyond measure, with no concern for the well-being of their fellow man. We have also received far too many reports where energy companies have been involved in massive environmental damage – with much of it having been due to irresponsible behaviour on the part of the energy company.

And we know that governments continually lie to us: the man-made global warming/climate change agenda is proof of that: lack of proper UK border controls and totally uncontrolled immigration is another: “The pound in your pocket” lie from Wilson: WMD within 45 minutes from Blair: Education, education, education is another: The Common Market is not a political union from Heath: The treasonable deceit over the EU from the whole of the LibLabCon has earned all three parties the growing distrust of the electorate. And so it goes on and on; the lying deceit and theft by the political class over their expenses claims brings the untrustworthiness down the to very large numbers of individual MPs. Now there are real suspicions that the Establishment is heavily involved in paedophilia and what appears to be a massive police cover-up. I'm afraid the political class only has itself to blame for the lack of trust I have towards them.

As for disbelieving environmentalists; they too can be untrustworthy and utterly irrational. CO2 is not a poison - it is an essential element in the growth of all plant life and our food supply.

'Experts', are not trustworthy either. No two of them can ever agree on anything. One day fat in our diet is the cause of heart disease, the next, fat is good for us – and sugar is the culprit. First red wine is good for the heart, now all wine is dangerous. First we were told that aspirin reduces the risk of heart attacks, now they are not so sure. We are told to avoid exposure to the sun because of the risk of skin cancer, now we are told that sun block lotions are responsible for too little sun exposure and is the cause of vitamin D deficiency.

Statins are constantly being pushed by the political class and some medics; there are even calls from some medics to put statins in the general water supply. I carry positive damage in my own body that is directly due to statins, and still my GP won't acknowledge that fact to my face, even though I have a copy of a consultant's letter clearly stating that statins are the cause of the damage.

Back to fracking: If the government was truly convinced that fracking is 100% safe, then it should present its case in the public domain and provide convincing evidence that all the reports of fracking having severely damaged the environment in parts of the USA, Canada, and Australia are all false. So far the government hasn't proved anything, apart from its unseemly rush to unleash potential disaster on our local communities. But if we apply common sense to the fracking argument, then there are serious questions to be answered by the politicians and the energy companies. Common sense says that pumping millions of gallons of unrecoverable known toxic chemicals into the environment will probably have serious consequences, and many reports from around the globe suggest that fracking is not safe.

I think we all need to exercise our common sense, and rely less on the frequently biased opinions of so-called experts. And my common sense tells me that fracking contains lots of unknown risks that nobody in officialdom is yet prepared to discuss in public. When I read that certain insurance companies are not prepared to offer home insurance on properties in areas where fracking is taking place, then I strongly suspect that my common sense is going in the right direction.


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Jon wrote:
The way perfectly good coal fired power stations are being torn down and blown up is criminal.


+1

Tearing down one way to overcome the forecasted brownouts as they let more people in to use up what's left

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All interesting points. People are already losing house sales because of fracking which is a nightmare for them and totally unfair.


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