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| Author: | Jon [ Mon Oct 06, 2014 8:48 am ] |
| Post subject: | Lib Dems find a winning formula!! |
At last, the Lib Dems find a way to secure outright victory at the next election. The Business secretary Vince Cable will this morning defend the benefits of immigration at the Lib Dem conference in Glasgow, and say the Lib Dems have a responsibility to be the voice of "sanity, seriousness and sense" on the issue. Later, Nick Clegg will say his party won't shirk the responsibility of encouraging more house building in south-east England. They can't lose! |
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| Author: | geezer466 [ Mon Oct 06, 2014 9:03 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Lib Dems find a winning formula!! |
It's immigration which has led us to an acute shortage of houses. It's the acute shortage of houses and demand outstripping supply which has led to house price inflation. The two go hand in hand. Of course now prices have risen to such an extent that people on average wage cannot afford to live in the London postcodes. Even traditional working class (poorer) areas like Hayes and parts of the Boro of Brent are right on the cusp of what is and what is not affordable. Central London now truly is only affordable by people with money. No even mentioning the pensions crisis and the need to import more to pay the pensions of today and tomorrow. The Lib Dems will be history post May next year. We know it and they know it which is why they are flaunting all these unpopular policies at their conference. UKIP has now taken over as the party of the protest vote. It remains to be seen if UKIP can turn this recent swell of support into something to upset the ConLab plans for the Country. |
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| Author: | Jon [ Mon Oct 06, 2014 9:08 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Lib Dems find a winning formula!! |
I don't think most of UKIP's votes will be protest votes, though no doubt it will pick up quite a few of those too. |
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| Author: | Westonman [ Mon Oct 06, 2014 1:04 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Lib Dems find a winning formula!! |
Neither do I think that votes for UKIP are primarily a protest vote. For anybody who will honestly assess the behaviour of the LibLabCon, the LibLabCon are increasingly seen as THE problem and NOT the cure. The LibLabCon have finally been busted wide open – by Cameron and his crew. There was a deep despair within the electorate with Labour after the reigns of A Blair and G Brown. Although Cameron didn't come across as fully trustworthy in the lead up to the 2010 election, the Conservatives were largely seen as the vain hope of restoring some normality and rationality to UK politics. Now though, after over 4 years of the joint reigns of Cameron and Clegg, both of them are known to be completely untrustworthy – and as bad as Blair and Brown. Cameron and his crew have broken so many promises that he is largely regarded as a liar in the mould of Blair, with his incompetence seen as matching that of Brown. And Clegg has revealed the true nastiness and treachery of the LibDems. I recall the video of Clegg being challenged about child abuse on Budget day earlier this year – Clegg and his cronies ran away from the questioner, and the BBC had to abandon their 'interview' of Clegg. Cameron has not only broken major promises, he has attacked the traditional family unit by redefining marriage – and without even mentioning it in his so-called election manifesto. Cameron is also a warmonger in the mould of Blair. Cameron, and the Conservatives generally, are now quite accurately regarded by the electorate as being a treacherous sub-group of the treasonable LibLabCon. UKIP are now seen by a rapidly increasing number of voters as the only hope for restoring some degree of normality and rationality to British politics. A vote for UKIP is now regarded by an increasing number of voters as the last chance of a return to something resembling normality. It bothers me that UKIP are not making a lot of noise over the 1st of November power transfer from Westminster to the EU. It also bothers me that UKIP are not bringing the issue of child abuse cover-ups to the public's attention. Both these issues would reveal UKIPS proper intentions to a large degree, and assist with uncovering the corruption in high places. My question to UKIP is: Why are they not campaigning against child abuse? Secret courts, and the influence of Common Purpose in our national and local life, are other major areas where UKIP could inflict a lot of damage on the LibLabCon and the establishment – but for some reason UKIP appear to remain quiet on both these enormous issues. Perhaps I'm missing something. As for the Lib Dems - they may soon become history. On the other hand, UKIP are extremely unlikely to gain sufficient votes to form a majority government, which could leave the way open for whatever remains of the Lib Dems, Labour, and the Conservatives to form a three party coalition – thereby effectively creating a one-party state within the EU. There are interesting times ahead. |
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| Author: | geezer466 [ Mon Oct 06, 2014 3:35 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Lib Dems find a winning formula!! |
UKIP will gather a number of votes of the protest variety but are gathering a pace in building their own support. Heywood and Middleton one of the by elections to be held this Thursday is probably too great 'an ask' for them although Clacton looks to 'be in the bag'. That said the only poll so far taken for Heywood and Middleton suggests Labour will win but UKIP will run them a close second. Going on the 2010 election figure that would suggest a swing of close too 30% to UKIP both from left and right. http://blogs.channel4.com/michael-crick ... leton/4443 Quote: The full figures are: Labour 50% (Up 10% on 2010) Ukip 31% (Up 28%) Conservative 13% (Down 14%) Lib Dems 4% (Down 19%) The one worry for Labour is that 19 percent of voters have not yet made up their minds. The Ukip figure also shows an enormous leap from the 2.6 percent which Ukip recorded in 2010. The poll suggests that 35 percent of Ukip’s support comes from Labour, and 33 percent from the Tories. Translate that swing into all constituencies across England for the 2015 General Election and something dramatic will occur. I know it has been said before that a Farage/Cameron deal is not on the cards but I think Cameron will be bounced into some sort of agreement in the run up next May. He will stand down Tory candidates in safe Labour seats and give UKIP a clear run. What will be their price for such a deal who knows at this stage but if it happens expect the EU in/out referendum to happen a lot sooner than 2017. In other news the Lib Dems will be beaten into 5th place by the Greens. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politic ... -race.html |
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| Author: | Kremmen [ Tue Oct 07, 2014 7:12 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Lib Dems find a winning formula!! |
geezer466 wrote: It's immigration which has led us to an acute shortage of houses. It's the acute shortage of houses and demand outstripping supply which has led to house price inflation. The two go hand in hand. Of course now prices have risen to such an extent that people on average wage cannot afford to live in the London postcodes. Even traditional working class (poorer) areas like Hayes and parts of the Boro of Brent are right on the cusp of what is and what is not affordable. Central London now truly is only affordable by people with money. No even mentioning the pensions crisis and the need to import more to pay the pensions of today and tomorrow. The Lib Dems will be history post May next year. We know it and they know it which is why they are flaunting all these unpopular policies at their conference. UKIP has now taken over as the party of the protest vote. It remains to be seen if UKIP can turn this recent swell of support into something to upset the ConLab plans for the Country. How very true. Plainly obvious but LIBLabCon can't see it |
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| Author: | Westonman [ Tue Oct 07, 2014 10:53 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Lib Dems find a winning formula!! |
Kremmen wrote: geezer466 wrote: It's immigration which has led us to an acute shortage of houses. It's the acute shortage of houses and demand outstripping supply which has led to house price inflation. The two go hand in hand. Of course now prices have risen to such an extent that people on average wage cannot afford to live in the London postcodes. Even traditional working class (poorer) areas like Hayes and parts of the Boro of Brent are right on the cusp of what is and what is not affordable. Central London now truly is only affordable by people with money. No even mentioning the pensions crisis and the need to import more to pay the pensions of today and tomorrow. The Lib Dems will be history post May next year. We know it and they know it which is why they are flaunting all these unpopular policies at their conference. UKIP has now taken over as the party of the protest vote. It remains to be seen if UKIP can turn this recent swell of support into something to upset the ConLab plans for the Country. How very true. Plainly obvious but LIBLabCon can't see it The immigration problem has been thoroughly brought to the attention of the LibLabCon for many years now, and their arrogant response has been to threaten anybody who disagreed with them with charges of racism – until recently – and support for UKIP is responsible for the withdrawing of the LibLabCon's racism charge. However, the LibLabCon remain totally committed to open door and uncontrolled immigration in order to undermine and destroy what remains of the British culture. The LibLabCon know perfectly well what they are doing to us – they just don't have the honesty or integrity to tell us. With the open-door immigration caused 'housing shortage', we see absolutely no government directed investment in essential utilities and services that an increased population and housing stock demands. Electricity generation is being deliberately cut-back by the EU forced closure of coal-burning power stations; water storage and supplies remain very tight; flood control has become a serious and unfunny joke; road building remains frozen; public transport will never cope with any increased demand; the NHS, hospitals, GP surgeries, etc. are at breaking point; education, school buildings, and high quality teachers are all in very short supply. AND, unemployment and under-employment are already at crisis point. The electricity supply situation is now so desperate that black-outs and short-time working are a very real possibility in the very near future, all thanks to decades of procrastination and downright foolishness on behalf of the LibLabCon. Couple the immigration caused 'housing shortage' with the deliberate political policy of zero investment in essential utilities and services and the only rational conclusion that can be drawn is – British society is under deliberate political attack from the LibLabCon. The decades of under-investment in essentials by the LibLabCon provides UKIP with another very large and open goal to shoot at. By now UKIP ought to have the LibLabCon on the ropes and begging for mercy. |
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