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Author:  Westonman [ Thu Jun 08, 2017 10:09 am ]
Post subject:  “Make EU a military power”

Here it is, an EU Army:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... ssels.html

On election day, after a campaign in which none of the LibLabCon would discuss the integration and unification of the British military into an EU army, we now read this in the MSM.

British forces are already fully integrated into the French Command & Control system in preparation for the next step, which is a fully integrated EU Army. Which is why there will NOT be a full Brexit that fully restores independence and full sovereignty to the British people.

Author:  Kremmen [ Fri Jun 09, 2017 1:08 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: “Make EU a military power”

After the Marxist lovers vote anything is now possible.

What a mess we are now in.

Author:  Westonman [ Fri Jun 09, 2017 5:07 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: “Make EU a military power”

On the contrary Kremmen, we, the electorate haven't created a 'mess' at all. If there is a 'mess' then the party system of politics is at the root of it, with each party dictating its own rigid manifesto consisting of a mix of good and bad policies. For the vast majority of us, we would probably prefer to adopt a mix-and-match set of policies from across the whole spectrum of political ideas. But the rigid party system doesn't allow for any give and take to take place. The parties will not accept any feedback from the electorate in the formation of policies. The 'winning' party holds us into accepting the whole of their election manifesto, whether we agree with all of it or not. In effect, the party manifesto system forces us to choose the least offensive party manifesto.

I have no problem with a hung Parliament. I prayed for the result to be a hung Parliament. A hung Parliament hopefully, should help to protect all of us from a lot of the extremism that all the parties love to engage in. A hung Parliament by its very nature is much more fragile than a government with the large majority that Mrs May was hoping to achieve. That fragility should help towards providing us with a government that is more inclined to listen to the people. Whereas a government with the large majority that Mrs May was hoping for would continue to steam-roller us with its rigid 'manifesto', even the extreme and bad parts of that manifesto. A government with a small majority, such as both Cameron and May had until Parliament was suspended, doesn't protect us from extremism either, the party whips see to that.

I would prefer to see the end of the party system altogether. And a Parliament of fully independent representatives selected by the people, elected by the people, to represent the people. That way there ought to be less of the extremism that we've all come to suffer from both the Left and the Right. A hung Parliament is one small step towards a Parliament consisting 100% of independents. Since the professional political class insist on having their divisive party system of inflexible manifestos, a system that manifestly fails every time, then I welcome a hung Parliament.

A Parliament of truly independent elected representatives would be less prone to being controlled by the hidden and unelected deep state of secret societies. Which is where the vast majority of our political problems originate. Politicians love the party system because it permits them to exercise control over us; at the same time the party system tends to protect individual MPs from close examination and responsibility. They are a class of people who are motivated by the lust for power over others. Hence the rigid party manifesto system.

I don't believe we are in a mess. I believe we now should have a SHORT period of reprieve from the worst of the political extremism that was planned for us by the hidden deep state. Of course, a hung Parliament is unlikely to achieve a full Brexit of a sovereign British people. But we never were going to be granted a full Brexit; it never was on the agenda, the hidden deep state that controls the political party system has taken care of that.

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