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 Post subject: Greece Preperations
PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2012 8:56 am 
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The next week or so will be crucial in determining whether Greece will leave the Eurozone..
If they do or are kicked out the consequences for Eurozone banks will be dramatic.... Some pundits are suggesting people take steps to try and protect themselves.....

http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article34625.html

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Steps You Need to Take Now !

The following are my updated lists of tasks you need to do to protect your deposits because you are NOT being paid to carry the REAL RISK OF LOSS OF FUNDS ON DEPOSIT in Nominal Terms.

1. Ensure that you have at least 2 current accounts across banking groups and at least one with a safer bank such as HSBC.

2. Next make a list of all of your deposit / bank accounts, with the amounts on deposit.

3. Now group your accounts by banking sector group (see list here as a guide).

4. If you are anywhere near the £85k limit with any banking group then move those excess funds immediately! and Especially if it is a Eurozone bank

Article Continues.......


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 Post subject: Re: Greece Preperations
PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2012 12:38 am 
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Thanks Geezer, all very interesting. I've subscribed to their newsletter.


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 Post subject: Re: Greece Preperations
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I have ordered a couple of Secricor vans to take mine from the Banks and stack it in my Garage. :o ;)

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 Post subject: Re: Greece Preperations
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jim wrote:
I have ordered a couple of Secricor vans to take mine from the Banks and stack it in my Garage. :o ;)


Where is your garage Jim?


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 Post subject: Re: Greece Preperations
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geezer466 wrote:
jim wrote:
I have ordered a couple of Secricor vans to take mine from the Banks and stack it in my Garage. :o ;)


Where is your garage Jim?


Greece of course. Just fill one corner and let eurobank fill the rest.


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problem solved I have jacked the roof up a few feet. ;) ;)

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 Post subject: Re: Greece Preperations
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Will it be economic collapse, or the Stone cut without hands that brings the empire down? If the EU is the revived Roman Empire, then it looks like the Stone will bring the end. Either way, it is getting very interesting.

This article explains:
From: http://www.raptureready.com/rap16.html
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Europe's Days of Iron and Clay
Things are not going very well for the European Union. In the past couple of weeks, there has been a series of elections in which anti-EU parties have achieved stunning victories over their pro-EU rivals.

In France, conservative incumbent Nicolas Sarkozy was defeated by François Hollande. For a long time, Sarkozy and Germany's Angela Merkel were tag-team partners in keeping fellow EU members in line. Hollande has no intention of playing the role of EU enforcer. In fact, he will probably join sides with those seeking greater independence for France.

The biggest EU headache is now Greece. Voters have given two key opposition parties enough power to block any austerity measures tied to its financial bailout. The collapse of the bailout could mean the marriage between Greece and the euro zone is doomed. If Greece is kicked out of the club, the whole organization could unravel.
The next blow to EU unity may come when Ireland votes on a May 31 referendum that asks the public to approve an EU treaty that aims to control the nation's deficits and longer-term debts. A "no" vote would give the European Union's austerity plan another black eye and probably trigger an every-nation-for-itself panic.

There is a growing consensus that the European Union is doomed to fail. Even its staunchest supporters are having to face up to the reality that the treaty has major flaws. One of the most critical component is the rule that requires each of the twenty-seven members to keep its annual deficit below 3 percent of GDP. So far, only five have been able to achieve this goal. Another key problem is the layers of bureaucracy that have built up around the EU. To accomplish any type of major change, there needs to be the approval of the legislature in Brussels and of all twenty-seven members.

One of the most overlooked prophecies in the Bible is the prediction that the alliance that will be the launching pad of the Antichrist will be very fragile in nature. Daniel said the second stage of the Roman Empire was to be the weakest of all the empires he saw in his visions, so we should expect to see an alliance frequented by problems.

"And whereas thou sawest the feet and toes, part of potters' clay, and part of iron, the kingdom shall be divided; but there shall be in it of the strength of the iron, forasmuch as thou sawest the iron mixed with miry clay. And as the toes of the feet were part of iron, and part of clay, so the kingdom shall be partly strong, and partly broken. And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay, they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men: but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay. And in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever" (Daniel 2:41-44).

The vision given to King Nebuchadnezzar in Daniel 2 showed all the great Gentile empires that would arise on the earth. Nebuchadnezzar was the head of gold; Media-Persia was the breast and arms of silver; Greece was the belly of brass; and Rome was the legs of iron. The final government will be the feet of iron mixed with clay.

The interesting thing about the series of governments is that they progressively lose value as you go down the list. As the head of gold, Nebuchadnezzar had absolute power over his subjects. At the bottom was the Roman Empire, which was represented by iron. You had a ruler who was largely beholden to the Roman senate for his power base. The addition of clay to the iron tells that the second stage of the Roman Empire will be plagued by turmoil--and boy, has that been true.

I've been watching the EU evolve since I was a teenager. During the 1980s and 1990s, there were several times when its survival was in far greater doubt. The organization faced huge obstacles, but it has always managed to right itself and move forward. It will prevail over these current issues because the Bible predicts its role on the world stage is not yet over.

We may soon see Europe erupt into a financial and political crisis that will seem impossible to resolve. Because God is guiding world events, total chaos may be the sign that the tribulation hour is very near. Once the people of Europe reach the point of absolute despair, they will be ready for the most cunning and ruthless leaders of all time.

"For God hath put in their hearts to fulfill his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast, until the words of God shall be fulfilled" (Revelation 17:17).

Todd Strandberg

Todd Strandberg doesn't explain why he believes the EU will prevail over these current issues, but I think the reason is rooted in Daniel Chapter 2: 32-34, here:
The head of that statue was made of fine gold, its breast and its arms of silver, its belly and its thighs of bronze, its legs of iron, its feet partly of iron and partly of clay. You continued looking until a stone was cut out without hands, and it struck the statue on its feet of iron and clay and crushed them.
It is the Final Kingdom, a stone cut without human hands that breaks the feet of iron and clay.

Then we read in verse 35 of Daniel chapter:
Then the iron, the clay, the bronze, the silver and the gold were crushed all at the same time and became like chaff from the summer threshing floors; and the wind carried them away so that not a trace of them was found. But the stone that struck the statue became a great mountain and filled the whole earth.
All the remains of human empires are crushed and blown to the four winds, and the Final Kingdom fills the whole earth.


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 Post subject: Re: Greece Preperations
PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2012 6:38 am 
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It is this sort of stuff that made me say nah! once I got my brain into gear. I just aint got that much imagination, Gulliver has the same effect. ;) ;)

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 Post subject: Re: Greece Preperations
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It looks like the EU isn't looking for a quick solution to its economic problems:

http://www.sunherald.com/2012/05/14/394 ... rylink=cpy
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BRUSSELS -- The European Union harshly condemned Israeli settlement policies on Monday, saying that continued construction in occupied territories threatens to make a peace agreement with the Palestinians impossible.

In an unusually strong statement, foreign ministers of the 27-nation bloc emphasized that "settlements remain illegal under international law." They reiterated that the EU would not recognize any changes to Israel's lines before the 1967 Mideast war, when it captured the West Bank and east Jerusalem.
The Palestinians claim both areas for their future state.
"We're ... staying solid to the two-state solution and sending a strong message to the new coalition in Israel and to the Palestinians that we want to see talks move forward," EU foreign affairs chief Catherine Ashton said.


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 Post subject: Re: Greece Preperations
PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2012 9:48 am 
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The today programme and R5 live were this morning discussing on just how safe is Santander......

Of course the safety valve emphasised was the FSA guarantee.... But if something the size of Santander does go down then the following tsunami is likely to create havoc in the rest of the Worldwide banking system.

Maybe available on the listen again functions if peeps are interested...


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