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Author:  James [ Mon May 21, 2012 11:37 am ]
Post subject:  So is Wales getting Solicitor Advocates and a legal system.

• The following regarding teh creation of legal institutions and the recognition of welsh peers prior to teh reign of Henry VII and VIII and then again after vacant peerages after teh Great war 1914-18 which went to fund the then FederalUniversity of Wales (amongst other sources)needs to be checked, this is just one persons reflections after reading somebooks and followingthe evolution towards seperation ofteh English and Welsh legal propfessions.

• The legal profession in Wales.

• The legal system of Wales was based on baronial courts in Dyfed, Gwynedd and Ceredigion and castle courts after the reign of Edward 1st. During the Gwyndwr principality his court (where the declaration of welsh independence was signed) was in Machynlleth.

• The East welsh counties were shired earlier in the medieval period to include, Radnorshire, Powys, Breconshire, Monmouthshire and Gwent (different borders to the modern one).

• When the wars of the roses culminated with Henry Tudor landing in West Wales and raising some of the forces that fought the Battle of Bosworth Field, Wales moved toward harmonisation with England in terms of bureaucracy.

• The 1536-43 acts of Union passed at Westminster created shire counties and instituted three legal sessions for the Welsh territories:
• 1) Monmouthshire was covered by Oxford,
• 2) Radnor and Deeside by the Chester sessions (the Count Palatine, which dealt with the recognising and unification of the Welsh aristocracies under common regulation with England and later the training of Barristers there)
• 3) The rest of Wales counties were covered by Ludlow assizes in Shropshire.

• In the mid nineteenth century Ludlow was superceeded by the Royal courts of Justice in the Strand, London and crown courts in Wales main cities of Cardiff and Swansea. As a common jurisdiction, Wales also by then had solicitors in the county towns (as well as Magistrates and County courts).

• Wales Barristers tended to be called to the bar at Grays Inn or Lincoln Inn, though some in Royal or Church service were called to Inner or Middle Temple.

• In the mid to late twentieth century training of lawyers by correspondence and professional associations to reduce the cost and as part of ongoing training for solicitors, resulted in a new category of lawyer in England and Wales, the Solicitor Advocate. These solicitors not only prepared court papers but also represented at Magistrate, Crown and County court level and until recently were concentrated in the towns of England.

• However it is my submission that with the satellite broadband now overcoming the communication topography of Wales hills and mountains better than a decade ago a bilingual Welsh version is possible. This is due to the greater usage in Wales of regional offices for the assembly and at County Town level. With this the training of solicitor advocates through a new common legal training process is a possibility that needs investigating.

• Then part time and distance learning for the many and bilingual speakers is based on ability, and experience and can reinforce the powers and clarity of process in the workings of the primary law powers of the Welsh National assembly / Senedd and other new legal issuing and operating structures of Wales (such as courts for Wales company, family law, and its direct interactions with the European Union with reference to preceding UK and English and Welsh Law) such as for Solicitor Advocacy or combined legal practicioners.

• This has to be done to aid the removal, clarification and harmonisation of legal variations under preceding circuit common law variations should these hamper legal jurisprudence and operation which could create cases for the UK Supreme Court and relevant European Institutions having to adjudicate (Council of Europe, European Union, EFTA, OSCE)

Author:  James [ Mon May 21, 2012 1:59 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: So is Wales getting Solicitor Advocates and a legal syst

Which basically means that the location for the centre for any training centre would have to include Cardiff (or at least a relay for Welsh Assembly for the interpretation of ministerial measures and interpretation for Wales of said measures),
Aberystwyth for library archive as the Welsh Copyright library
and Shrewsbury as the main road / rail interchange for passengers from across Wales if Aberystwyth regional buses are being curtailed or there isn't a rail extension from Carmarthen to Lampeter to replace in part and also for frequent services to three regional airports (Cardiff, Birmingham Intl and Manchester / Liverpool).
As such Bangor could make a bid to try and get back some of Anglesey airports services. This would have to be advertised (preliminary and with specifications) in the Official Journal of the European Union and EFTA and OSCE equivilant and be in line with each Unitary authority (county) / Cyngor syr
Unitary development plans as passed in accordance with preceding English and Welsh leglislation (and subsequent Welsh Assembly / Sennedd guidelines).

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