SOT wrote:
For God's sake - now everyone is a ballistic expert!
Some people believe 9/11 and 7/7 were fake, and now this one too?? Please, for God's sake, lets have some common sense here
Most of the info out in the public domain has been put there by the media, often by sourcing social media such as the views expressed on this site by people less than competent at interpreting the 'facts' as they see them.
I am sick of the impatience and paranoia expressed by those who believe this type of shit posted by anonymous sources and am happy to wait for the results of a proper measured investigation by people who know what they are talking about - No offence intended
I know I will face a barrage of 'you are naive if you believe what you are told by the authorities' etc etc. Perhaps I am, but I'd rather be naive than gullible enough to believe any Tom Dick or Ahmed who posts, blogs or tweets any old nonsense onto social media
No barrage of abuse directed at you SOT, nor is it intended. And we are not believing every Tom, Dick or Ahmed either.
BUT, it is big BUT; we do know that the authorities do lie to us.
We have been consistently lied to over decades by the political class and the mainstream media about the Common Market not being a political enterprise – we now know for certain that from the very beginning of the CM project that political union ALWAYS was the goal. Political and media deceit and lies surrounds everything to do with the EU – and continues to do so.
We have been persistently lied to by the political class, and the media, about the supposed man-made global warming/climate change myth – and still they all persist with their lies. On this subject we have also seen a stash of emails from East Anglia University revealing the corruption and blatant lies that have been used to support the nonsense of man-made global warming. And the political class and their media friends continue as if nothing had been revealed.
The 9/11 destruction of the WTC towers still has so many unanswered questions hanging over it. Not least, the fact that the BBC reported on the day, the collapse of one of the towers about 20 minutes BEFORE it collapsed, and while the tower could still seen be standing behind the BBC reporter's head.
We now know that Blair and Labour deliberately took us into an illegal war in Iraq without there being any evidence of WMD being capable of striking Europe within 45 minutes. The whole thing was a pack of lies from beginning to end.
Since entering Downing Street Cameron and Clegg have diligently followed in the lies, myths, and deceit practiced by Blair Brown & Co. and continued the path to war all over North Africa and the Middle East.
We could go on and on recalling the lies and deception that the LibLabCon and their mainstream media colleagues have perpetrated against us. Now the fact remains that liars tell lies because it is the nature of liars is to tell lies. We have been told some enormous lies, and the lies continue to be propagated against us by the mainstream media and the political class.
So, our default position ought to be to question and dissect every piece of news in order to try and get to the truth; especially news that could be having profound impacts on our freedoms.
You suggest that we on here consider ourselves to be ballistic experts now – that is not true, and it is not fair. No allegations have been made; only questions have been posed as to the integrity of the 'news reports' the whole of the united mainstream media is presenting – a mainstream media that has sided with inaccurate reports in the past.
As to our assuming to be ballistic experts; it is the political experts, people whose primary educational qualifications too frequently major on a degree in Politics, Philosophy, and Economics (PPE) and in the case of many others (including Osborne), a History degree; who are the political people who assume to be sufficiently qualified to speak on man-made global warming/climate change and other science-based topics, and they expect us to believe them – even though all their economic predictions and forecasts eventually turn out to be grossly inaccurate. All too often the political class tell us such and such “is the right thing to do”, even though the majority of them have virtually no experience of life in the real world. On the other hand, some of we lesser folk may hold engineering qualifications; whilst these may not be in the arena of ballistics, we can make assessments as to the energy involved in a projectile of a given mass travelling at close to muzzle velocity (and the associated shockwave leading and trailing the bullet)– and the damage it may produce when striking a very short ranged object . After all, these ought to be within the understanding of students of A level physics and maths. So, we ask the questions and try and make sense of what the mainstream media and the political class presents to us. We know they lie to us - and we only want to get to the truth. And getting to the truth in an election year ought to be in the interests of all of us.