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PostPosted: Sat Aug 01, 2015 11:24 am 
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Sorry John, I think you will find its a 'smug' of MP's awarding themselves a 10% pay rise :)


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 01, 2015 11:28 am 
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Kremmen wrote:
Plenty of other words I'd like to use.

The French just dumping them 2 miles away shows their intention for these migrants. The French could sort this if they wanted but they are just waving the white flag as usual.
The French haven't raised the white flag; they have, along with the whole of the EU and the rest of the globalists – including our own political class and Establishment, have intentionally raised the battle ensign against all of humanity.

Blair and Bush set about creating instability in the Middle East by illegal and unjustified use of military force against Iraq, a nation that had previously received almost unrestricted military aid and supplies from the West. And since that unwarranted invasion of Iraq, the West has continued to pour
huge amounts of weaponry into the Iraq and the surrounding region.

Cameron/Clegg/Obama & Co followed in the footsteps of Blair /Bush & Co by bombing what was a relatively stable Libya into the hands of terrorists. The same globalists then went on a festival of rejoicing at the “Arab Spring” that erupted across North Africa; an uprising that was destined to bring about the political chaos and human misery that has followed.

Then Cameron/Clegg and Co did their very utmost to set about bombing Syria into the same chaos that resulted in Libya. Unfortunately for Cameron?Clegg, the British people and Parliament made the opinions felt, and the planned bombing of Syria was put on the back-burner. Now they are bombing the area anyway, this time without Parliamentary approval.

Whichever political direction we look, we see the same apparent desire to create human misery, suffering, and death. Have Cameron/Clegg/Osborne behaved any better than Blair/Brown/Burnham? No! All of them have been enthusiastic Europhiles, all of them are committed globalists, and all of them have supported and engaged in bombing foreign sovereign nations into the hands of 'terrorists'.

NATO, the USA, the EU, and the Western World in general, have gone along with creating political unrest and human misery across Africa and the Middle East. All of them have been supplying both the Middle East and Africa with weapons for many decade – as have the once Eastern Block nations and China. All of them have played a particular part in exploiting and destroying Africa. All of them carry a very large responsibility for the current “swarm” of immigrants pouring out of Africa.

The whole of the leadership of the EU is directly responsible for the ease with which 'illegal' immigrants from Africa can freely travel across Europe to the now disunited and largely dysfunctional United Kingdom. The globalists have deliberately created enemies of innocent peoples in order to destroy a Western culture that contains any vestige of a truly Biblical Christian influence. The large influxes/”swarms” of people from foreign cultures form a major part of the weaponry the globalists have deployed against us. Like we indigenous Brits, the “swarms” of people from a foreign culture are just innocent pawns who are being used in a globalist war to create an Antichristian New World Order.

The French have not raised the white flag of surrender. The battle ensign has been flying for some decades now. The French are doing what the globalists require them to do. And Cameron and the whole of the British political system are working to the same ends of destroying us in order to prepare us for the New World Order.
Why are the political class appearing to be so helpless at fixing the 'problem' of “swarms” of immigrants flooding to Britain? The answer is, they DO NOT want to fix the 'problem'. To them there is no problem because they are achieving what the globalists want them to achieve. Open and uncontrolled national borders IS part of their answer to destroying the United Kingdom and the Western world. The same methods are being applied in the USA, and right across the Western world.

The immigrants from Africa are only doing what anyone of us would do if we too were in a similar situation as they find themselves. The real criminals are the political class and the Establishment; they have the power to create these situations – and they have the power to fix the 'problem' they have created – but they DON'T want to fix the 'problem' they have created.


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 01, 2015 12:27 pm 
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If this report is accurate, it doesn't look like a white flag has been raised; it would appear that every encouragement support is being supplied.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... n-him.html

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A Sudanese migrant rescued by the Royal Navy in the Mediterranean Sea and dropped off in Italy just five weeks ago has already made it to Britain.
Hamad Said, 22, was given free passage on trains across Italy, France and all the way to Calais, where he jumped on a lorry to England.
His journey of more than 2,000 miles from Sicily to Birmingham cost him just €76 — around £53 — as the French and Italian authorities simply waved him through.
Mr Said said they helped him by providing free train rides. And he claimed that even when he was eventually stopped by police in Marseille, they told him he had to leave the country.
He replied that he was off to England, to which the officers simply said: ‘OK.’ They then gave him a piece of paper that allowed him to travel free on trains across the country.
The astonishing ease at which he made it to Calais is likely to raise questions on how mainland EU countries are fuelling the flow of migrants headed for Britain.
Last night Andrew Percy, Tory MP for Brigg and Goole, issued a blistering attack on the French for their ‘disgraceful’ behaviour and said they had ‘stabbed Britain in the back’.
He told the Mail: ‘If true, this is truly disgraceful of the French authorities who appear to be using the British asylum system as if [it’s] their own.’


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 01, 2015 10:53 pm 
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The Dublin Convention gives Dave all the tools he needs to return illegal immigrants to France if they land in the UK....

http://www.ecre.org/topics/areas-of-wor ... ation.html

The fact he doesn't use the protocols contained therein speaks volumes.

Immigrants seeking asylum should do so in the first safe haven they land in. In most cases this was Italy, Italy moves them North to France who moves them North to the Pas de Calais.

Dave is failing miserably. Harman is about as much use as a wet lettuce. Instead of harping on about French compensation she should be doing her job in 'holding the Government properly to account' and asking Dave why he is not using the Dublin protocols.
Instead she doesn't.

The sailors on board Bulwark were saying on social media a few weeks ago that the migrants they were plucking from the Med and putting ashore in Italy in safety would be back in Blighty before them.
Not wrong were they.....


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 02, 2015 12:21 pm 
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Geezer466, agreed. This is exactly my argument and the EU is pointing fingers at the UK to have the rules of membership reassessed. If the EU are to gain any credibility, they should be insisting that the country chosen by these migrants to enter Europe, should be the country they seek asylum, else they should be returned. Free movement only applies to Europeans who have a valid passport or can confirm their citizenship


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 02, 2015 4:01 pm 
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But if the country that the migrants enter first provide them with asylum & papers doesn't that then give them carte blanche to travel to any country within the EU?


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 02, 2015 7:30 pm 
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Crazy crazy situation.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2015 11:16 pm 
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Funny , i thought when people were found breaking into a county , illegally , they were arrested , finger printed , DNA taken then housed in a secure camp , looked after , until , the court case .
then deported if failed , and fined etc for any damage caused EG to a lorry


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2015 12:51 am 
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Kent County Council are having to cover a shortfall of £5.5million to deal with this latest flood of what are essentially illegal immigrants. They are overwhelmed and so are the people of Kent.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-33722604

So what does Cameron do ? He gives France £7 million of UK taxpayers money to build more fences in France:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/ho ... 0422721.ht

If the pr*t Cameron had a spare £7m of our money to throw around so casually, he should have thrown it at Kent County Council.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2015 9:56 am 
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Wire fences won't stop them. Why not build electric fences and why doesn't the French police use tear gas to disperse them? Of course this isn't a long term solution, but when will the EU ever get to a long term solution, I'd say never.


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