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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 1:01 am 
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They don't give up do they:


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 8:11 am 
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:lol: :lol: :lol:

If I walked to work it would take me 8½ hours each way :lol: :lol: :lol:

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 8:30 am 
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Here's the report from NICE. If anyone wonders where savings could be made, just look at the length of this report and wonder how many people on £50k were involved in writing it:

http://www.nice.org.uk/guidance/index.j ... ID&o=13975

What a nonsense. I don't disagree that we all need to do a bit more walking, but what business is it of the NHS to tell councils to inflict more inconvenience and expense on us all?


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 10:50 am 
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Jon wrote:
Here's the report from NICE. If anyone wonders where savings could be made, just look at the length of this report and wonder how many people on £50k were involved in writing it:

http://www.nice.org.uk/guidance/index.j ... ID&o=13975

What a nonsense. I don't disagree that we all need to do a bit more walking, but what business is it of the NHS to tell councils to inflict more inconvenience and expense on us all?


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This guidance sets out how people can be encouraged to increase the amount they walk or cycle for travel or recreation purposes. This will help meet public health and other goals (for instance, to reduce traffic congestion, air pollution and greenhouse gas emissions).
From the above quote the GOALS are supposedly: to improve Health, to reduce traffic, reduce air pollution, and reduce greenhouse gas emissions. All those 'goals' come straight our of the UN's Agenda 21, and smacks of a Common Purpose between NICE, the Ministry of Transport, Department for Education, Department for Energy and Climate Change, Department for Environment - Food and Rural Affairs, local authorities, international green lobbyists such as WWF and Greenpeace, the EU, the United Nations, the police, and the media.


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 10:52 am 
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Kremmen wrote:
:lol: :lol: :lol:

If I walked to work it would take me 8½ hours each way :lol: :lol: :lol:



At least you would be super fit though


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 11:07 am 
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True.

One thing I think should be implemented is no parking withing ½ a mile of a school. Kids should all walk to school if they go to the local one.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 11:47 am 
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Westonman wrote:
Jon wrote:
Here's the report from NICE. If anyone wonders where savings could be made, just look at the length of this report and wonder how many people on £50k were involved in writing it:

http://www.nice.org.uk/guidance/index.j ... ID&o=13975

What a nonsense. I don't disagree that we all need to do a bit more walking, but what business is it of the NHS to tell councils to inflict more inconvenience and expense on us all?


This quote is from the above link:
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This guidance sets out how people can be encouraged to increase the amount they walk or cycle for travel or recreation purposes. This will help meet public health and other goals (for instance, to reduce traffic congestion, air pollution and greenhouse gas emissions).
From the above quote the GOALS are supposedly: to improve Health, to reduce traffic, reduce air pollution, and reduce greenhouse gas emissions. All those 'goals' come straight our of the UN's Agenda 21, and smacks of a Common Purpose between NICE, the Ministry of Transport, Department for Education, Department for Energy and Climate Change, Department for Environment - Food and Rural Affairs, local authorities, international green lobbyists such as WWF and Greenpeace, the EU, the United Nations, the police, and the media.


Wouldn't legislating to reduce the number of fast food restaurants like McDonalds, Burger King, KFC and the multitude of places which sell pizza not achieve the same goals?

It is no accident the rate of increase in obesity across the population but particularly in children is linked to the spread of so called fast food outlets across the UK. 40 years ago there wasn't health problems like we have now, but then all you would find in a High Street would be a Wimpy and a fish and chip shop..

But these firms are global entities who have the ear of governments when it comes to tax and other issues. Always far easier to 'go after the little people'.


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 3:26 pm 
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Wouldn't legislating to reduce the number of fast food restaurants like McDonalds, Burger King, KFC and the multitude of places which sell pizza not achieve the same goals?

It is no accident the rate of increase in obesity across the population but particularly in children is linked to the spread of so called fast food outlets across the UK. 40 years ago there wasn't health problems like we have now, but then all you would find in a High Street would be a Wimpy and a fish and chip shop..

But these firms are global entities who have the ear of governments when it comes to tax and other issues. Always far easier to 'go after the little people'.
Good public health is not the primary concern for the elitist legislators; but State control to restrict freedom and the use of private transport is a major part of the Common Purpose. In fact, poor public health actually provides the State with more opportunities to exercise 'control' over individuals – as do State benefits.

Anybody who is free-thinking, financially prudent and independent of the State finds themselves under direct attack from the State; hence the relentless increase in taxes and costs on the 'middle classes'. There are to be only two classes; the poor under class, and the elitist authoritarian class. The middle class is being systematically destroyed.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 12:13 am 
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Kremmen wrote:
True.

One thing I think should be implemented is no parking withing ½ a mile of a school. Kids should all walk to school if they go to the local one.


Agree, but if you live in the part of yeading that I do, your kids are not in any catchment area and so you have no option other than try to find a place in a non local school, which does mean you drop them off. so who is to blame, you or the government for not providing local places in local schools for local children


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 8:12 am 
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Agree with that. Mine got into Barnhill not long after it opened but she was last on the list even though it was our 'local'. First off she was out then near to September a few dropped out and she squeezed in.

What did annoy me was the number of kids from further away that got in. Used grandparents or friends addresses instead of their real one. One kid came all the way from Harlington.

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